ZHANG HUAN / WORLD IN THE TEMPLE IS A WORLD OF HOPES
MONIKA BIELSKYTE / YOUR NEW SCULPTURAL/INSTALLATION WORKS (SUCH AS BUDDHA FINGER) STRIKE ME BY THE FEELING OF A LOSS SPECTATOR EXPERIENCES LOOKING AT THEM. HOW IMPORTANT THE EXPERIENCE OF MISSING IS FOR YOU? CAN YOU MAYBE TELL ME MORE ABOUT THINGS THAT (NOT ONLY IN YOUR WORK, BUT ALSO IN THE WORLD AS YOU SEE IT) ARE PRESENT THROUGH THEIR ABSENCE?
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WHEN I SAW THESE FRAGMENTS IN LHASA, I WAS MOVED BY A KIND OF MYSTICAL FORCE. THEY THEMSELVES CARRY VESTIGES OF HISTORY AND A BELIEF IN LIFE, LIKE THE HUMAN BODY. THIS IS RELATED TO ONE’S LIFE EXPERIENCE: A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT MAY LEAD TO A DISABILITY, VIOLENCE MAY CRACK YOUR SKULL OPEN, MANY LIVES ARE LOST IN WAR, YOUR FAMILY MAY END IN CALAMITY. THESE FRAGMENTS MAKE ME THINK ABOUT BEING HUMAN
MB / BUDDHA FINGER WORKS MAKE ME THINK OF THE SKY BURIAL IN TIBET, I KNOW YOU HAVE SEEN IT YOURSELF SOME TIME AGO, WHAT EXPERIENCE WAS IT FOR YOU?
ZH/ 如果我能选择æ»äº¡çš„æ–¹å¼ï¼Œæˆ‘将选择西è—的“天葬â€ã€‚
IF I COULD CHOOSE MY THE WAY OF DYING, I WOULD CHOOSE THE SKY BURIAL IN TIBET
MB / YOU HAVE SAID EARLIER IN YOUR LIFE, WHILE YOU WAS STILL DOING PERFORMANCE WORKS, THAT BODY IS THE LANGUAGE & THAT ANY OTHER LANGUAGE ELSE IS TOO REMOVED FROM LIFE EXPERIENCE. NOW, THAT YOUR WORK FORMALLY SEEMS SO DIFFERENT I STILL FEEL THAT BODY IS THE MAIN LANGUAGE FOR YOU, THOUGH NOT ONLY THE HUMAN – YOUR BODY, BUT ALSO THE ‘BODY’ OF ASH, ‘BODY’ OF THE VISION (BUDDHA IMAGES) ETC, WHAT DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT NOW?
ZH / ä½ è¯´çš„å¾ˆå¯¹ã€‚
YOU ARE RIGHT
MB / I HAVE AN IMPRESSION THAT YOU, DIFFERENTLY THAN MOST CONTEMPORARY ARTISTS TODAY, CREATE WORKS NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE FINAL RESULT, BUT MORE AS A RITUAL. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT; WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE RITUAL FOR YOU?
ZH / 在作å“è¿‡ç¨‹ä¸æˆ‘努力è¦ä½“验的是生å˜ï¼Œèº«ä½“和真实,而厌æ¶ä½œå“ä¸çš„表演æˆä»½ã€‚
DURING THE PROCESS OF MAKING ART, WHAT I TRY TO EXPERIENCE IS EXISTENCE, BODY AND REALITY. I HATE THE “PERFORMATIVE ASPECT” IN THE WORKS
MB / SEARCHING FOR THE MEANING?
ZH / 我åªå…³å¿ƒæˆ‘个人的生å˜çжæ€ï¼Œå¿ƒç†çжæ€ï¼Œæˆ‘åªå…³å¿ƒæˆ‘çš„ç”Ÿæ´»ã€‚æ— ä¸ºè€Œæ— ä¸ä¸ºã€‚
I JUST CARE ABOUT MY PERSONAL LIVING CONDITIONS, MENTAL STATE AND MY LIFE. (TAO)NEVER DOES, YET THROUGH IT EVERYTHING IS DONE (THIS SENTENCE IS FROM THE WISDOM OF LAO TSE)
MB / CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT TIBET & HOW YOU SEE ITS PEOPLE’S TRADITION OF THE PILIGRIMAGE? THE IMAGES IN YOUR MEMORY OF IT THAT SEEM MOST POWERFUL & DO YOU FEEL IT HAS AFFECTED YOUR WAY TO SEE THE WORLD & TO CREATE?
ZH / 西è—的特殊地ç†çŽ¯å¢ƒäº§ç”Ÿäº†è¥¿è—äººï¼Œäº§ç”Ÿäº†è¥¿è—æ–‡åŒ–。强撼的高原地ç†ä¸Žæ°”候的背åŽï¼Œæœ‰ç§è¶…自然的é”åŠ›ã€‚è—æ°‘é¢å¯¹æ¶é”般的自然下,使人窒æ¯å’Œéš¾ä»¥ç”Ÿå˜ã€‚è—æ°‘ä¸å¾—ä¸å¯»æ±‚ä¸€ä¸ªæ›´å¼ºå¤§èƒ½ä¸Žè‡ªç„¶æŠ—è¡¡çš„è‹±é›„ï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªè‹±é›„å°±æ˜¯ä½›ã€‚è—æ°‘对生的æ„义就是æ»äº¡ï¼Œå¯¹æ»äº¡çš„æ„ä¹‰å°±æ˜¯å†ç”Ÿã€‚ è—æ°‘为了获得å†ç”Ÿç”¨ä¸¤å¹´æ—¶é—´ä»Žè‡ªå·±çš„å±±æ‘出å‘ï¼Œå¾’æ¥æ‰£ç€é•¿å¤´å¥”å‘圣地布达拉宫。
THE SPECIAL GEOGRAPHICAL FEATURES OF THE AREA HAVE GIVEN RISE TO THE TIBETAN PEOPLE AND TIBETAN CULTURE. THERE IS A SUPERNATURAL MAGIC BEHIND ITS INCREDIBLE HIGHLAND GEOGRAPHY AND WEATHER. BECAUSE THIS HELLISH/NATURAL ENVIRONMENT TAKES THE BREATH AWAY AND MAKES IT HARD TO LIVE, TIBETAN PEOPLE HAVE TO LOOK FOR A MIGHTY HERO WHO CAN DEFEND THEM AGAINST NATURE, THIS HERO IS BUDDHA. TO THE TIBETAN PEOPLE, BIRTH MEANS DEATH, DEATH MEANS REBIRTH. IN ORDER TO GAIN NEW LIFE, TIBETAN PEOPLE LEAVE THEIR VILLAGE FOR TWO YEARS AND TRAVEL TO THE POTALA PALACE ON FOOT, KNEELING DOWN AND KOWTOWING ALL THE WAY
MB / å…³äºŽä½ ä½œå“里的历å²çš„痕迹 TRACES OF HISTORY IN YOUR WORKS?
ZH / 生命是一个轮回的过程,我想表达和记录这个过程。
LIFE IS A PROCESS OF SAMSARA. I WANT TO EXPRESS AND RECORD THIS PROCESS
MB / 艺术的é™åˆ¶ï¼ŸLIMITS OF ART?
ZH / 艺术没有æ¢å¢ƒï¼Œå…³é”®æ˜¯ä½ 的头脑ä¸èƒ½æœ‰æ¢å¢ƒã€‚
THERE ARE NO LIMITS IN THE FIELD OF ART, IF ONLY THERE ARE NO LIMITS IN YOUR MIND. HISTORY CAN BE BORROWED, ALTERED AND REIMAGINED BY ONESELF. IT REMINDS ME OF A SONG THAT WAS OFTEN SUNG BY PEOPLE WHEN I WAS YOUNG, WITH THE WORDS: ‘TO LIFT YOUR SWORD ABOVE THE HEADS OF THE DEVILS.’ BUT IN MY OPINION, THIS SENTENCE SHOULD BE REWRITTEN AS ‘TO LIFT THE SWORD ABOVE OUR HEADS OURSELVES’, UNTIL OUR DEATH’
MB / å¯¹ä½ æ¥è®²ï¼Œåœ¨ç”Ÿæ´»ä¸ä»€ä¹ˆæ˜¯æœ€çœŸå®žçš„?WHAT IS FOR YOU LIFE AT ITS MOST REAL?
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EATING, DRINKING, SHITTING, PEEING, AND BREATHING
MB / 香ç°ï¼ŸASH?
ZH / 香ç°å¯¹æˆ‘æ¥è®²ä¸æ˜¯ææ–™ï¼Œå¥¹æ˜¯ä¸€ç§é›†ä½“记忆,集体çµé‚,集体æ€è€ƒï¼Œé›†ä½“ç¥ç¦ã€‚去寺院的善男善女们,有的祈求早得贵å,有的祈求家人平安,有的祈求早日康å¤ï¼Œæœ‰çš„祈求æ¥å¹´å¥½è¿å‘大财,有的祈求熬过难关ã€å‘Šåˆ«è´«å›°ã€äº‹ä¸šé¡ºåˆ©ã€‚寺院里完全是å¦å¤–一ç§å¸Œæœ›ä¸–界,医院里则是å¦ä¸€ç§é¢å¯¹ç—›è‹¦å’Œæ»äº¡çš„æŒ£æ‰Žä¸–界。
TO ME ASH IS NOT A MATERIAL, BUT SOMETHING THAT EXPRESS A GROUP SOUL: COLLECTIVE MEMORY, COLLECTIVE BLESSINGS AND COLLECTIVE COLLAPSE. PEOPLE GO TO TEMPLE PRAYING TO BUDDHA TO GIVE THEM OFFSPRING, OR PRAYING PEACE FOR FAMILY MEMBERS. SOME PEOPLE PRAY FOR SICK PEOPLE TO GET WELL SOON, SOME FOR GOOD LUCK AND MAKE A FORTUNE IN THE COMING YEAR. OR THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WEATHER THE STORM, STAY AWAY FROM POVERTY, WISHES A SUCCESSFUL CAREER OR BUSINESS. IT IS TOTALLY ANOTHER HOPEFUL WORLD IN TEMPLE, WHILE IT IS A STRUGGLING WORLD OF SUFFERING AND DEATH IN HOSPITAL
MB / 时间? TIME?
ZH / 时间一秒一秒地给我们,所以è¦ä¸€ç§’一秒的用。
TIME PASSES SECOND BY SECOND; SO IT SHOULD BE USED SECOND BY SECOND
MB / é‡ç”Ÿï¼ŸREBIRTH?
ZH / è½®å›žè½¬ä¸–ä¸Žå› æžœæŠ¥åº”æ˜¯å¯†åˆ‡ç›¸è¿žçš„ï¼Œä¹Ÿè®¸ä¸Šä¸–æˆ‘æ˜¯ä¸€å¤´é©´è½¬ä¸–è¿‡æ¥çš„,æ¥ä¸–å¯èƒ½åˆæ˜¯ä¸€å¤´é©´ã€‚我ä¸çŸ¥é“ï¼Œå…¨é æˆ‘çš„é€ åŒ–äº†ã€‚å©å是生命的连ç»ï¼Œäººæ»åŽ49天æ‰èƒ½çœŸç¦»å¼€äººé—´ã€‚
SAMSARA AND REBIRTH ARE TIGHTLY TIED TO CAUSE AND EFFECT (YIN AND GUO). MAYBE I WAS A DONKEY MY PAST LIFE, AND MAYBE I WILL BE A DONKEY AGAIN IN THE AFTERLIFE. I HAVE NO IDEA, IT ALL DEPENDS ON MY LUCK. CHILDREN ARE A CONTINUATION OF LIFE. PEOPLE TRULY LEAVE THIS WORLD 49 DAYS AFTER DEATH
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