ZHANG HUAN / WORLD IN THE TEMPLE IS A WORLD OF HOPES



















MONIKA BIELSKYTE / YOUR NEW SCULPTURAL/INSTALLATION WORKS (SUCH AS BUDDHA FINGER) STRIKE ME BY THE FEELING OF A LOSS SPECTATOR EXPERIENCES LOOKING AT THEM. HOW IMPORTANT THE EXPERIENCE OF MISSING IS FOR YOU? CAN YOU MAYBE TELL ME MORE ABOUT THINGS THAT (NOT ONLY IN YOUR WORK, BUT ALSO IN THE WORLD AS YOU SEE IT) ARE PRESENT THROUGH THEIR ABSENCE?

ZHANG HUAN / 当我在拉è¨çœ‹åˆ°è¿™äº›æ®‹ä»¶æ—¶ï¼Œæœ‰ä¸€ç§ç¥žç§˜çš„力é‡åœ¨æ„ŸåŠ¨ç€æˆ‘,它们自身带有一ç§åކå²ç—•迹和生命信仰,象人的肢体一样。这与生活ç»åŽ†æœ‰å…³ï¼Œè½¦ç¥¸å¯ä½¿äººæ®‹åºŸï¼Œæš´åŠ›å¯ä½¿ä½ çš„头颅打开,战争会让无数无辜人失去生命,ç¾éš¾ä½¿äººå®¶ç ´äººäº¡ã€å¦»ç¦»å­æ•£ã€‚这些残件无法ä¸è®©æˆ‘æ€è€ƒäººç±»æœ¬èº«ã€‚

WHEN I SAW THESE FRAGMENTS IN LHASA, I WAS MOVED BY A KIND OF MYSTICAL FORCE. THEY THEMSELVES CARRY VESTIGES OF HISTORY AND A BELIEF IN LIFE, LIKE THE HUMAN BODY. THIS IS RELATED TO ONE’S LIFE EXPERIENCE: A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT MAY LEAD TO A DISABILITY, VIOLENCE MAY CRACK YOUR SKULL OPEN, MANY LIVES ARE LOST IN WAR, YOUR FAMILY MAY END IN CALAMITY. THESE FRAGMENTS MAKE ME THINK ABOUT BEING HUMAN

MB / BUDDHA FINGER WORKS MAKE ME THINK OF THE SKY BURIAL IN TIBET, I KNOW YOU HAVE SEEN IT YOURSELF SOME TIME AGO, WHAT EXPERIENCE WAS IT FOR YOU?

ZH/ 如果我能选择死亡的方å¼ï¼Œæˆ‘将选择西è—的“天葬â€ã€‚
IF I COULD CHOOSE MY THE WAY OF DYING, I WOULD CHOOSE THE SKY BURIAL IN TIBET

MB / YOU HAVE SAID EARLIER IN YOUR LIFE, WHILE YOU WAS STILL DOING PERFORMANCE WORKS, THAT BODY IS THE LANGUAGE & THAT ANY OTHER LANGUAGE ELSE IS TOO REMOVED FROM LIFE EXPERIENCE. NOW, THAT YOUR WORK FORMALLY SEEMS SO DIFFERENT I STILL FEEL THAT BODY IS THE MAIN LANGUAGE FOR YOU, THOUGH NOT ONLY THE HUMAN – YOUR BODY, BUT ALSO THE ‘BODY’ OF ASH, ‘BODY’ OF THE VISION (BUDDHA IMAGES) ETC, WHAT DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT NOW?
ZH / 你说的很对。
YOU ARE RIGHT

MB / I HAVE AN IMPRESSION THAT YOU, DIFFERENTLY THAN MOST CONTEMPORARY ARTISTS TODAY, CREATE WORKS NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE FINAL RESULT, BUT MORE AS A RITUAL. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT; WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE RITUAL FOR YOU?

ZH / 在作å“过程中我努力è¦ä½“验的是生存,身体和真实,而厌æ¶ä½œå“中的表演æˆä»½ã€‚
DURING THE PROCESS OF MAKING ART, WHAT I TRY TO EXPERIENCE IS EXISTENCE, BODY AND REALITY. I HATE THE “PERFORMATIVE ASPECT” IN THE WORKS

MB / SEARCHING FOR THE MEANING?
ZH / 我åªå…³å¿ƒæˆ‘个人的生存状æ€ï¼Œå¿ƒç†çжæ€ï¼Œæˆ‘åªå…³å¿ƒæˆ‘的生活。无为而无ä¸ä¸ºã€‚
I JUST CARE ABOUT MY PERSONAL LIVING CONDITIONS, MENTAL STATE AND MY LIFE. (TAO)NEVER DOES, YET THROUGH IT EVERYTHING IS DONE (THIS SENTENCE IS FROM THE WISDOM OF LAO TSE)

MB / CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT TIBET & HOW YOU SEE ITS PEOPLE’S TRADITION OF THE PILIGRIMAGE? THE IMAGES IN YOUR MEMORY OF IT THAT SEEM MOST POWERFUL & DO YOU FEEL IT HAS AFFECTED YOUR WAY TO SEE THE WORLD & TO CREATE?

ZH / 西è—的特殊地ç†çŽ¯å¢ƒäº§ç”Ÿäº†è¥¿è—äººï¼Œäº§ç”Ÿäº†è¥¿è—æ–‡åŒ–。强撼的高原地ç†ä¸Žæ°”候的背åŽï¼Œæœ‰ç§è¶…è‡ªç„¶çš„é­”åŠ›ã€‚è—æ°‘é¢å¯¹æ¶é­”般的自然下,使人窒æ¯å’Œéš¾ä»¥ç”Ÿå­˜ã€‚è—æ°‘ä¸å¾—ä¸å¯»æ±‚ä¸€ä¸ªæ›´å¼ºå¤§èƒ½ä¸Žè‡ªç„¶æŠ—è¡¡çš„è‹±é›„ï¼Œè¿™ä¸ªè‹±é›„å°±æ˜¯ä½›ã€‚è—æ°‘对生的æ„义就是死亡,对死亡的æ„义就是å†ç”Ÿã€‚ è—æ°‘为了获得å†ç”Ÿç”¨ä¸¤å¹´æ—¶é—´ä»Žè‡ªå·±çš„å±±æ‘出å‘,徒步扣ç€é•¿å¤´å¥”å‘圣地布达拉宫。
THE SPECIAL GEOGRAPHICAL FEATURES OF THE AREA HAVE GIVEN RISE TO THE TIBETAN PEOPLE AND TIBETAN CULTURE. THERE IS A SUPERNATURAL MAGIC BEHIND ITS INCREDIBLE HIGHLAND GEOGRAPHY AND WEATHER. BECAUSE THIS HELLISH/NATURAL ENVIRONMENT TAKES THE BREATH AWAY AND MAKES IT HARD TO LIVE, TIBETAN PEOPLE HAVE TO LOOK FOR A MIGHTY HERO WHO CAN DEFEND THEM AGAINST NATURE, THIS HERO IS BUDDHA. TO THE TIBETAN PEOPLE, BIRTH MEANS DEATH, DEATH MEANS REBIRTH. IN ORDER TO GAIN NEW LIFE, TIBETAN PEOPLE LEAVE THEIR VILLAGE FOR TWO YEARS AND TRAVEL TO THE POTALA PALACE ON FOOT, KNEELING DOWN AND KOWTOWING ALL THE WAY

MB / 关于你作å“里的历å²çš„痕迹 TRACES OF HISTORY IN YOUR WORKS?

ZH / 生命是一个轮回的过程,我想表达和记录这个过程。
LIFE IS A PROCESS OF SAMSARA. I WANT TO EXPRESS AND RECORD THIS PROCESS

MB / 艺术的é™åˆ¶ï¼ŸLIMITS OF ART?

ZH / 艺术没有止境,关键是你的头脑ä¸èƒ½æœ‰æ­¢å¢ƒã€‚
THERE ARE NO LIMITS IN THE FIELD OF ART, IF ONLY THERE ARE NO LIMITS IN YOUR MIND. HISTORY CAN BE BORROWED, ALTERED AND REIMAGINED BY ONESELF. IT REMINDS ME OF A SONG THAT WAS OFTEN SUNG BY PEOPLE WHEN I WAS YOUNG, WITH THE WORDS: ‘TO LIFT YOUR SWORD ABOVE THE HEADS OF THE DEVILS.’ BUT IN MY OPINION, THIS SENTENCE SHOULD BE REWRITTEN AS ‘TO LIFT THE SWORD ABOVE OUR HEADS OURSELVES’, UNTIL OUR DEATH’

MB / 对你æ¥è®²ï¼Œåœ¨ç”Ÿæ´»ä¸­ä»€ä¹ˆæ˜¯æœ€çœŸå®žçš„?WHAT IS FOR YOU LIFE AT ITS MOST REAL?

ZH / åƒå–拉撒ç¡å‘¼å¸ã€‚
EATING, DRINKING, SHITTING, PEEING, AND BREATHING

MB / 香ç°ï¼ŸASH?

ZH / 香ç°å¯¹æˆ‘æ¥è®²ä¸æ˜¯ææ–™ï¼Œå¥¹æ˜¯ä¸€ç§é›†ä½“记忆,集体çµé­‚,集体æ€è€ƒï¼Œé›†ä½“ç¥ç¦ã€‚去寺院的善男善女们,有的祈求早得贵å­ï¼Œæœ‰çš„祈求家人平安,有的祈求早日康å¤ï¼Œæœ‰çš„祈求æ¥å¹´å¥½è¿å‘大财,有的祈求熬过难关ã€å‘Šåˆ«è´«å›°ã€äº‹ä¸šé¡ºåˆ©ã€‚寺院里完全是å¦å¤–一ç§å¸Œæœ›ä¸–界,医院里则是å¦ä¸€ç§é¢å¯¹ç—›è‹¦å’Œæ­»äº¡çš„æŒ£æ‰Žä¸–界。
TO ME ASH IS NOT A MATERIAL, BUT SOMETHING THAT EXPRESS A GROUP SOUL: COLLECTIVE MEMORY, COLLECTIVE BLESSINGS AND COLLECTIVE COLLAPSE. PEOPLE GO TO TEMPLE PRAYING TO BUDDHA TO GIVE THEM OFFSPRING, OR PRAYING PEACE FOR FAMILY MEMBERS. SOME PEOPLE PRAY FOR SICK PEOPLE TO GET WELL SOON, SOME FOR GOOD LUCK AND MAKE A FORTUNE IN THE COMING YEAR. OR THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WEATHER THE STORM, STAY AWAY FROM POVERTY, WISHES A SUCCESSFUL CAREER OR BUSINESS. IT IS TOTALLY ANOTHER HOPEFUL WORLD IN TEMPLE, WHILE IT IS A STRUGGLING WORLD OF SUFFERING AND DEATH IN HOSPITAL

MB / 时间? TIME?

ZH / 时间一秒一秒地给我们,所以è¦ä¸€ç§’一秒的用。
TIME PASSES SECOND BY SECOND; SO IT SHOULD BE USED SECOND BY SECOND

MB / é‡ç”Ÿï¼ŸREBIRTH?

ZH / 轮回转世与因果报应是密切相连的,也许上世我是一头驴转世过æ¥çš„,æ¥ä¸–å¯èƒ½åˆæ˜¯ä¸€å¤´é©´ã€‚我ä¸çŸ¥é“ï¼Œå…¨é æˆ‘çš„é€ åŒ–äº†ã€‚å­©å­æ˜¯ç”Ÿå‘½çš„连续,人死åŽ49天æ‰èƒ½çœŸç¦»å¼€äººé—´ã€‚
SAMSARA AND REBIRTH ARE TIGHTLY TIED TO CAUSE AND EFFECT (YIN AND GUO). MAYBE I WAS A DONKEY MY PAST LIFE, AND MAYBE I WILL BE A DONKEY AGAIN IN THE AFTERLIFE. I HAVE NO IDEA, IT ALL DEPENDS ON MY LUCK. CHILDREN ARE A CONTINUATION OF LIFE. PEOPLE TRULY LEAVE THIS WORLD 49 DAYS AFTER DEATH









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